Stage w/Tonex?

    After a good few months of tweaking on the stage profiler with my Godin grand concert nylon, importing IRs into the cab block, no amp, getting a not so convincing reproduction, I decided to try a Fm3 with the same IRs. Much better! Very natural sounding by far!.. but I struggled getting my electronic cleans and overdrives with the Fm3, I wasn't getting the same feel and the way the Fractal responds. And the Kemper has way more headroom. With the Fm3, I had to push my FRFR and the Fm3 to its limits..not good..I got this idea that maybe I could incorporate a Tonex 1 with a acoustic IR in the efx loop of the Stage..BINGO! with no amp or cab block just a booster, graphic EQ, a little compression, reverb, delay...just wondering if anybody has ever tried this?

    Edited 2 times, last by sixstring12 (June 26, 2024 at 10:31 PM).

    May have something to do with the way Kemper converts the IR to cab. A while back I had put in a feature request for an IR loader effect, to use any IR but not in the Cab module. But it didn't get a lot of traction.

    I can suggest one thing that I find using 3Sigma acoustic IR's with a few piezo guitars - on the cab module set the Pure Cabinet to 10 and the Character to +5. For me, they seem to lose the phasey quality and bring back some brightness that seemed missing.

    I suppose you talk about acoustic guitar IR ? To turn your guitar sound into another one ?!

    It's strange you don't use an amp in your chain ?!

    I had a variax and a Helix before my Kemper Stage and i used to put a neutral pre-amp in the chain to increase sound volume as you amplify a traditionnal guitar.

    I've taken some acoustic rigs on the forum and it includes an acoustic amp & speaker....

    I didn't try them a lot.... Now, i use the acoustic simulator in the chain and there's no amp&cab but i've seen TJ rig ; there are 2 EQs to obtain more volume.

    Maybe your problem is there.

    Quote from sixstring12

    After a good few months of tweaking on the stage profiler with my Godin grand concert nylon, importing IRs into the cab block, no amp, getting a not so convincing reproduction, I decided to try a Fm3 with the same IRs. Much better! Very natural sounding by far!.. but I struggled getting my electronic cleans and overdrives with the Fm3, I wasn't getting the same feel and the way the Fractal responds. And the Kemper has way more headroom. With the Fm3, I had to push my FRFR and the Fm3 to its limits..not good..I got this idea that maybe I could incorporate a Tonex 1 with a acoustic IR in the efx loop of the Stage..BINGO! with no amp or cab block just a booster, graphic EQ, a little compression, reverb, delay...just wondering if anybody has ever tried this?

    I made very good experience with Fishman Aura in combination with Kemper. It does something more than just IRs...

    never thought that I would like the Kemper that much...! 8|

    Quote from Kellerblues

    Unfortunately discontinued, but you can get excellent results with the Kemper alone

    Yes, I know that, I'm using the Kemper alone quite often with special IR's fiting my acoustic Guitars. That's a quite logical aproach to try that first anyway. Good thing is, you can monitor that with the Kone/Kabinet. But as already mentioned, Aura does something more than just a regular IR and for my taste it sounds even better.
    Aura is discontinued, but you can get it used quite cheap...

    never thought that I would like the Kemper that much...! 8|