Xsonix Airstep Multi with Player?

1st Official Post

    AIRSTEP Lite can only be used with Bluetooth. So I am not able to test this.

    In an other discussion some Members says that there is a prolbem, but as the Kemper Support says, it must be an AIRSTEP Problem.

    Post

    RE: Ahhh What's that? A New Kemper Model? Profiler Player

    USB midi is supported on both USB connectors. The PROFILER models can act as USB device as well as USB host.

    So: you can connect

    - USB midi to a PC

    - USB midi to a tablet or mobile phone

    - USB midi to a foot controller

    - USB midi to a converter to get DIN midi

    these all works fine

    hassle free integration? : USB midi is not different than DIN midi in this respect: as with all equipment: one has to take the time to master it. With some external control gear it is needed to configure correct settings,…
    kpahuitsing
    January 10, 2024 at 2:46 AM

    I also had to test different firmeware versions from XSONIC to get everything work in my usecase. With the actual firmware it does't work X/

    Kemper Profiler Player with Power Cabinet

    OK.. so it seems Airstep you are using doesn't work. Other Airstep types seem to function OK, and other brands seem to function OK.

    again: there is a big chance that your Airstep is creating a MIDI loop !

    you didn't report back if your Airstep works when connecting 1 DIN cable only (and using a UM-ONE which you seem to have available ) When this doesn't work either.. the problem is definitely with the Airstep.

    again: we cannot debug or solve all external problematic non-Kemper products.

    maybe now the moment has arrived that you should try to contact the manufacturer of Airstep, and solve this.

    Quote from kpahuitsing

    OK.. so it seems Airstep you are using doesn't work. Other Airstep types seem to function OK, and other brands seem to function OK.

    again: there is a big chance that your Airstep is creating a MIDI loop !

    you didn't report back if your Airstep works when connecting 1 DIN cable only (and using a UM-ONE which you seem to have available ) When this doesn't work either.. the problem is definitely with the Airstep.

    again: we cannot debug or solve all external problematic non-Kemper products.

    maybe now the moment has arrived that you should try to contact the manufacturer of Airstep, and solve this.

    I have tried with MIDI OUT only, MIDI IN only and reversed.

    The Airstep works with my Boss Waza Air and Positive Grid SparkGo.

    I will contact Xsonic, but hate to be bounced between Kemper and Xsonic pushing the blame.

    Let’s focus on fixing the problem.

    AND

    What do you think of connecting MIDI controller to USB B on the Player?

    Quote from kpahuitsing

    yes from what I read in Airstep's specs, it should be capable to host the Player by connecting to the B port. But if the Airstep causes a MIDI loop, it could do that on that connection too.

    a USB descriptor dump can be created easily by Thesycon's device descriptor dumper:

    https://www.thesycon.de/eng/usb_descriptordumper.shtml

    it could help us to analyze Airstep's USB descriptors, and maybe find out more there.

    EUREKA!!!

    Airstep Smart Multi works with Player!

    CONNECTION:

    USB B on Player to USB C on Airstep.

    Airstep firmware 19.3

    Example of programming:

    From AIRSTEP app:

    Message 1

    Message type: MIDI

    Output interface: ALL

    MIDI Type: Program Change

    MIDI Channel: 1

    PC Number: 0

    PC Number will determine which rig is selected 0 to 54.

    Other possibilities not tested yet.

    HINT: use your old printer cable (USB B to USB A) with USB A to USB C adapter.

  • Arek77 January 12, 2024 at 5:57 AM

    Changed the title of the thread from “Xsonix Airstep Multi with Payer?” to “Xsonix Airstep Multi with Player?”.
    • Official Post

    Volume is MIDI control change #7 and a continuous controller.

    Value 0 is minimum, so normally mute and value 127 is maximum, so normally the stored volume of the Rig loaded. However, you can send any value in between for various levels of volume.

    Hi Arek77,

    I also have the Airstep Smart Multi, but I cannot get it work with the player.

    I tried different USB C to USB B connections with no success.

    Also tried Firmware 1.9.3 and the actual one 1.9.5 with no success.

    When you connect the Airstep with the player via USB C to USB B cable, should the small LED beside the USB C port on the player light up green?

    Mine do not light up.

    Do yo have any additional hints to get it working?

    Many Thanks

    Stefan

    Yes, the light turns green on Airstep when connected USB C to USB B.

    This is the cable I use:

    USB C Printer Cable:1M USB C to USB B Male Nylon Braided Scanner Cord Compatible MIDI Cable for Casio Digital Piano MIDI Controller and More Type-C Devices/Laptops
    Description: USB C to USB-B Printer cable High Quality Material: Premium nylon braided cable adds additional durability and tangle free. Exceptional…
    www.amazon.ca