[SOLVED] Monitor Cab Off - Unexpected results

If you shut off the profiled cabinet using the cabinet soft button, you disable it for the profile (like you are using a direct profile.) But this affects the main outs too, they would not have any cabinet.

Using disable cabinet in monitor, still allows the profiled cabinet in the mains but turns off the profiled cabinet in the monitor output, so you can use a guitar cabinet as monitor.

I read the problem here as a difference between having the monitor sound with "monitor cab off" and having the cab section off completely.

Perhaps turning off "pure cab" globally and try again?

Even though the monitor cab off is checked , any settings in the cab section can affect the sound. High Shift, low shift, and character, especially when dialed heavily one way or the other will affect the monitor output even if monitor cab off is checked.

You may or may not care for the sound in the PA but in this case I once turned the character knob from 0 counterclockwise to -5.0 and that seems to have the same effect as turning the cab block off all together with all the values at zero. With montior cab off i should add.

In either case, hope you get it fixed and get back to playing. Here's a thread I started that's kinda up that street in a different part of town Lol

Weird thing happening with helix and kpa...

If you did correctly what you described it should work. There should be no differences between monitor cab off and cabinet off. Furthermore in release 5.3.1.13085 there is none.

I checked this by reamping the same riff over and over with different settings and inverting the phase in one track. If those tracks are identical you hear nothing. That's the case, as you can "see" in the picture below. So either you've got a defective unit or defective ears ...or they've changed something in the public betas. Please give us some sound samples and tell us which firmware version you've got.

Changing settings like low shift in the cabinet does make a difference even if the cabinet is off. But that's known and not part of your problem as it appears in both cases (monitor cab off and cabinet off).

Quote from malleus

Changing settings like low shift in the cabinet does make a difference even if the cabinet is off.

Really? What is the rationale behind this?

I have had profiles on early firmware like Pete’s fortin Marshall where every mic’d cab sounded different on the same profile with cab off, but newer profiles I don’t notice it

What kind of speaker are you sending the Monitor Out to?

If you bypass the cab section you'll need a guitar speaker to "re-colour" the sound as that's what you're turning off.

Even if you're running a guitar cab it's likely to sound different to the cab (and mics) used to create the profile.

Quote from musicmad

Really? What is the rationale behind this?

From what I understand it has something to do with how the cab is programmed. It's definitely not logic in terms of sounds.

monitor cab off must be checked (activated) when you use a nonlinear guitar cab connected to the speaker output.

Quote from mroessmann

Now play with cabinet button on and off. There is a significant sound difference. This should not be, right?
This behavior is particularly happening with high gain sounds. Sounds with no gain are hardly effected.
Can you reproduce this?

That's the normal behaviour, that I can reproduce.

Quote from mroessmann

Ok, thank you. However - monitor cab off checked (activated) makes the difference between the sounds (cabinet on and off) even more significant. There should not be any difference, right?

There shouldn't be any difference on monitor out. (Of course there is a difference on other outputs like main or headphone out!).
Activating (checking) "monitor cab off" should do the same as turning off the cabinet.

I had the exact same problem fixed the exact same way. Odd!